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OIL CHANGE & FAILED MOT
Topic Started: Oct 13 2012, 05:15 PM (1,572 Views)
sullivj
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What an annoying day....

As you know, my new oil was flooded with fuel when a carb seal failed. So, I decided to change the oil (again!).

Bearing in mind it's only been in there a week and done about 1.5 miles, it was pretty black again..

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Whilst it was out, I thought that I might as well remove the sump and replace the strainer, o-rings and gasket and also clean the magnetic sump nut.

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When I'd filled it back up with oil, I looked around to see that I had managed to knock 3 litres of new oil on the garage floor :rant: :rant:

With that cleaned up (eventually!), I took the bike for an MOT. Very annoyingly it failed :rant:

- The rear light bulb had blown on the way there - since sorted.
- They say the front tyre is below the limit (I knew it was close).
- The bike doesn't have a front 'parking' light, but it has a parking light switch, that illumiates the rear light. Apparently, I need to put some black tape over this switch position, to 'remove' it and therefore let it pass the MOT
- The most annoying of all - they say that the front steering feels 'notcy', so I need to take the head bearings apart and see why.

I really enjoyed the ride - more so on the way there!!

Time for a beer, relax and steak dinner!
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that sucks dude, usually the steering does feel notchy on these im guessing as theyre such wheelie machines, mines had its head bearings done. not a big job so may be worth swapping them now just for peace of mind.

good luck with the re-test!
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rossonza
Oct 13 2012, 07:03 PM
that sucks dude, usually the steering does feel notchy on these im guessing as theyre such wheelie machines, mines had its head bearings done. not a big job so may be worth swapping them now just for peace of mind.

good luck with the re-test!

Mine went was all over road used it like that tester said it was tyre as had Dunlop on front n went like a point as it passed Mot I just rode it till it become dangerous 😁
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Like my CCM I'm old, overweight and badly maintained but I can still surprise you by how fast I can move!!
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Parking light ??? What does it actually say on ur fail note m8 ?
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Oct 13 2012, 08:11 PM
Parking light ??? What does it actually say on ur fail note m8 ?

It says "004 Front Position lamp does not illuminate immediately when swiched on [1.1.3a]"

They consider the 'parking light' to be the bottom position on the switch control, which makes the rear light work, but not the front light. Apparently, I can get around this, by taping over the botton switch position to 'pretend' that it doesn't exist....

Give me strength!!!
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Well the parking light is not part of an mot test thats why im askin, they have failed it in the front side light . Does ur front side light work on the bike ?
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No. The headlight was changed, so there isn't one. Because the switch is there, they say they'll fail it, because it doesn't light up. If I blank the switch, problem solved.
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No side light is a fail. Removin the switch/blanking it off is still a fail. I cant see why hes even told u to do that. But if he will pass it then its all good. Its 100% a fail either way u do it, u could just remove all the lights and take it for a daytime test and thats ur problem solved just put ur lights back on after. Hope that helps
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Front position lamps and headlamps
A motor bicycle (with or without a side car) fitted with a headlamp need not have a front position lamp (but must have one on the side car, if a side car is fitted).

The problem is how the tester interprets the manual. Im with Walshy, putting tape over a switch is wrong. Tape over lights is ok with a V32 notice daylight hours only. Just because the switch is there shouldnt make a jolt in my mind. The fact that the rear light comes on, again reading the manual wouldnt make me fail it.
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sullivj
Oct 13 2012, 09:06 PM
No. The headlight was changed, so there isn't one. Because the switch is there, they say they'll fail it, because it doesn't light up. If I blank the switch, problem solved.

just find the side light wire and join it in to the main beam wire? inless the mot states that it cant be as bright as your normal light?

i do find it laughable that they had you on this when all the info i found on your headlight states for off road use only.

head bearings ... its not just wheelies that kill them! i dont wheelie but this year i did a massive amount of miles and didnt check them as often as i should have. the result is i knackerd a set of bearings within a year.
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Thanks guys. I'll go with the blanking it off - madness that it is.

Has anyone done the head bearing themselves? Is it a difficult job? Any pointers would be appreciated?

Thanks.
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Lights if fitted must work ..... Construction and use regs

Remove/blank off switch is a pretty good let out

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Yes, I'm getting there. I've just ordered the new front tyre and I'm trying to work out which head bearings I need...
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Why not get a white LED and fit in plastic just below headlights,

Small 5mm hole and a resister and jobs done,
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sullivj
Oct 14 2012, 07:04 AM
Thanks guys. I'll go with the blanking it off - madness that it is.

Has anyone done the head bearing themselves? Is it a difficult job? Any pointers would be appreciated?

Thanks.

im guessing the 604 is like the 644 with regards to having to cut the lower bearing off?

thats about as technical as it gets, best to do with a little dremel or same as.

finding a tube to tap the new lower bearing in is good as well as on my bike there is a flared bit in the middle of the head stock tube.
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Oct 14 2012, 10:06 AM
Lights if fitted must work ..... Construction and use regs

Remove/blank off switch is a pretty good let out

Chin up, nearly there :dirtbike:

Your interpretation I guess. The fact its not fitted and in the VOSA manual says not required, you can see the problem. Its not always black and white :rolleyes:
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Got told that registering a bike for road use yrs ago by the DVLA examiner

As you say open to interpretation, the way our Police like it :blink:
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Oct 13 2012, 09:48 PM
Front position lamps and headlamps
A motor bicycle (with or without a side car) fitted with a headlamp need not have a front position lamp (but must have one on the side car, if a side car is fitted).

The problem is how the tester interprets the manual. Im with Walshy, putting tape over a switch is wrong. Tape over lights is ok with a V32 notice daylight hours only. Just because the switch is there shouldnt make a jolt in my mind. The fact that the rear light comes on, again reading the manual wouldnt make me fail it.

I only take that rule into account if the bike does not have switches and the headlight comes on with the ignition. Like u said m8 everyone reads and has there own opinion on the manual. Are u an mot tester also ?
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Walshy
Oct 14 2012, 05:22 PM
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Oct 13 2012, 09:48 PM
Front position lamps and headlamps
A motor bicycle (with or without a side car) fitted with a headlamp need not have a front position lamp (but must have one on the side car, if a side car is fitted).

The problem is how the tester interprets the manual. Im with Walshy, putting tape over a switch is wrong. Tape over lights is ok with a V32 notice daylight hours only. Just because the switch is there shouldnt make a jolt in my mind. The fact that the rear light comes on, again reading the manual wouldnt make me fail it.

I only take that rule into account if the bike does not have switches and the headlight comes on with the ignition. Like u said m8 everyone reads and has there own opinion on the manual. Are u an mot tester also ?

Yes mate I am, its a bloody pain in the arse trying to explain your interpretation. I get shit off my boss if he thinks Im too harsh or he knows best. Best to say its your train set, you sign for it :lol:
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The Farce that is a retest...

Took the bike in this morning. On the way there. my rear brake light switch wiring failed. I had soldered and heat shrunk what I knew what a poor connection, but knew it wasn't great.. Anyway, the wiring failed and the rear brake wouldn't make the brake light work.

I presented it for a retest anyway and the bike passed - whoop, whoop!!!

I guess they only retest the bits it's failed on before.

Interesting point on this side light issue.. It was a different tester this time. He told me that blanking off the switch position with tape, isn't really suitable, although he'd pass it anyway. He said I really need to change the switch, or disable the position on my existing switch..

As was said before, it's all about interpretation I guess.

But hey, what do I care - it passed - whoop, whoop!!!!!!!

Thanks for all your help and advice on here chaps - I couldn't have done it without you all :worthy:
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