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| What do you guys like and dislike about your CCM?; a little survey | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 3 2012, 02:58 PM (4,364 Views) | |
| Beef | May 3 2012, 02:58 PM Post #1 |
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hey guys just a little survey of what you guys like and dislike the most about your CCM? anythin in particular you do or dont like and to go with the feedback what type of riding are you mainly using it for? |
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| too old | May 3 2012, 03:12 PM Post #2 |
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the hard seat :angry: :angry: mainly 'B' roads |
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| Beef | May 3 2012, 03:15 PM Post #3 |
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man up! lol altho weve thought about that one |
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| Lawman | May 3 2012, 03:22 PM Post #4 |
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When I had my 404 it was poor plastic fitting esp. side panels, lack of inserts in panels, bolts split plastic, and just general poor build quality by modern standards... |
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CB500 Track Bike and also an Aprilia Shiver SL750 My Youtube Channel with CCM's | |
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| Marc | May 3 2012, 04:20 PM Post #5 |
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It's not that the seat is hard,it's just narrow and rounded and wedges up yer crack after a while riding. Can you give us a bigger more powerful LC engine please,the 644 has had it's day and the DRZ engine is a bit meh! What happened to that Subaru built quad engine I heard about ages ago ? Upgraded 4 pot calipers,preferably radially mounted industry standard these days,ditto radial master cylinder, progressive link rear suspension,not PDS this time please. Better spec stainless exhaust system that doesn't rust !!! OR.....Titanium ta That should keep you busy for a bit....lol |
CCM 644,Kent cam,Braking wavy disc and 4pot caliper,Brembo radial m/c etc etc
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| Ryan90 | May 3 2012, 04:32 PM Post #6 |
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I hated the electrics with a passion, were always playing up. |
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Yamaha DT 125 - Sold CCM 644 DS - Sold Yamaha R6 - Current | |
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| watts | May 3 2012, 06:12 PM Post #7 |
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nothing mines perfect, would ccm like to buy it back
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| Rob 110 | May 3 2012, 08:16 PM Post #8 |
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is this a survey related to new model development? in no order: 644 R30/DS for B-roads: likes: big headlight great suspension lightweight (compared to Jap motos) style (but beginning to date compared to KTM 690) long service intervals some quality components simple to work on comes with 2 sets of wheels dislikes: poor wiring fit of some panels poor design on headlamp cowl swingarm alignment issues swingarm bearings exhaust middle mount airbox to carb rubber/carb access 404 for trail/enduro: likes: goes great great suspension corners well runs in trail class on rallies rack some quality components simple to work on long service intervals comes with 2 sets of wheels dislikes: weight, 15kg too much swingarm alignment issues swingarm bearings exhaust middle mount concave air filter traps too much mud and water puddles in it if you're looking for markets to fill then i reckon >600cc thumpers/twins in Moto and Overland/rally spec are going to be good sellers look at 1200GS/XTZTenere/KTM950/690 sales other one is the 'trail all day/occasional enduro race' thumper i appreciate it depends on engine availability and development funds, in a recession :o happy to give feedback on any prototypes you wanna lend me :D |
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| Beef | May 3 2012, 08:31 PM Post #9 |
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Well more just a general survey as its good access to the guys that seem to use ccm's as intended for feedback and development is pretty much constant but keep your eyes open for a new model early next year. Cant disclose anythin specific but i think you should all like it |
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| bighit | May 3 2012, 08:55 PM Post #10 |
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outta here
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the ccm was not on my radar till a guy on the TBM forum got a sexy looking black r30 ( cupid stunt is the guys username on here ) and i fell in love with it . cupid answers loads of my questions and i settled on the 404ds. but there was none for sale round here but there was a 604 and two 644's. i went for the silver 644 as it came with supermoto and trail wheels and the other two did not . i was looking for a bike that would easily go 200 miles at motorway speeds and also have supermoto and trail wheels . the idea was to leave the trail wheels at my mums (200 miles away ) . i would then use the sm wheels all week to work and every so often i would travel to my mums and swap the wheels over and put the trail ones on and go out trail riding with my mates back at my mums . then on the day i come home i would put the sm wheels back on then pop home . there was not many other bikes that fitted that criteria other than say a 600/660xt if i had bought another set of wheels but the ccm looked better in my eyes as i liked the WP shocks and fork as like on the KTM bikes . i nearly bought a 640 KTM but i was beaten to it by a day , but too many KTBoom stories . a newer tech engine would be better as the freewind one is i believe the lowest tech suzuki engine at the time in its cc size . yeah ok most engine parts fit current engines but its still pretty old tech . just the general things that people listed above for example the seat . i hear the KTM seats are just as bad . if the new design bike had another bike in common for parts ,for example you could fit KTM parts on like bigger fuel tanks and not one that is only made for CCM like it just now . rear shock fixing at the bottom needs to be a better design . i have had one snap at the bottom as has some others . the carb access as rob110 mentioned . unless your a midget Japanese lady you need to strip the whole rear end off just to get to the carb and a complete pain in the arse to get back on . a glass lensed h4 bulb headlight would be better than the candle that is fitted now . maybe a 12v accessory socket for gps users ( i have fitted one to my bike . just drilled a large hole in the headlight holder at the side and fitted a socket) and a factory pannier rack frame as i would love to fit panniers for long distance. |
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| jonny h | May 3 2012, 09:03 PM Post #11 |
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this is how i roll!
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try to stick with B roads but i'll go anywhere on it. i like that fact i have a british make of bike and that is the reason i got the bike, i would like to see a proper CCM engine in there though? or at least a british one. if you could design it so the carbs where on the front and the zorst came straight out the rear with no silly bends that would free up all the power you could want. keep it simple.. ok we lack power to the KTM's and bergs but i like our long service times and the fact i can work on the bike without a masters degree, although it would be nice to know you can tune the balls out of it so we can see CCM back in racing? no V engines like the aprillia ... a SM is a big thumping single! better electrics please. a different swing arm so the chain isnt so close? maybe even so you can get a 5" rim i would much rather see CCM throw money at making a lighter and more usable bike than a more powerfull one. cutting the unsprung weight with decent wheels (talon hubs again please), lighter brake discs and 4 pot on the front and stuff like that, up to date FCR carbs, better quality zorst system. maybe a new model like the GS and tiger? if you want my seat design its in my project thread :) .. no charge :lol: |
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| Monty | May 3 2012, 10:06 PM Post #12 |
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R30, B & C roads Love everything, simple to tune, My electrics are fine once I worked my magic on it (sparky by trade) simple to service, looks good. hardly anyone knows what it is. annoys the power rangers good suspension and brakes, bad bits, stop the apprentice painting the tail pods on a friday afternoon, look good till the paint flakes off. Rotax DS, Green lanes, love it, does what it says on the tin, mates KTM hates it. drowns it when playing in the wet bits Rides like a auto, bung in third and putter or thrash. down side is its a tad heavy, |
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If it aint sharp I can play with it My Utube Channel, lots of bike vids here. Subscribe if you likehttp://www.youtube.com/user/choppermark?feature=watch
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| Pa644 | May 4 2012, 07:05 AM Post #13 |
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Donīt like that itīs in bits all over the workshop ... and the sunīs switched on outside. |
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| johnnydoo | May 4 2012, 07:19 AM Post #14 |
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This could be a bottomless can of worms and you have opened it and tipped it out all over the workshop floor!
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| lazybones51 | May 4 2012, 08:20 AM Post #15 |
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644 Dual Sport Likes: Easy to work on Strong and can take a beating Panels from yz so easy to replace It's simplicity Long service intervals. It's ability to go anywhere Good commuter bike Good on fuel. Dislike: Too heavy Lack of ground clearence Foot pegs too low and wide, horrible in ruts Typical briitish electrics always going wrong Cheap spoke nipples that rust ! Carb inlet rubber ! Weak Suzuki engine and always wondering if it was about to go pop Swingarm bearings constatly failing Would I get another one, hell yeah !
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CCM 644 DS - Yellow - Owned for five years, now gone :-( Fiat Cinquecento SX - Green Fiat Cinquecento Sporting - Yellow Follow my adventures - http://blog.kevinmace.co.uk
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| frontslide | May 4 2012, 09:06 AM Post #16 |
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Give the 644DS the comfort and build quality of an XT 600 Tenere 1VJ and it would be perfect B) |
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| Brads | May 5 2012, 09:29 AM Post #17 |
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For commercial reasons i think a R30 update would be the way forward, i love mine and agree with all the positive and negative aspects of ownership outlined in previous posts. Personally i would like a more tuneable engine, something water cooled with parts readily available like the Yam XTZ motor. |
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| German404 | May 5 2012, 09:30 AM Post #18 |
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Viscount
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404 likes: - design (compared to DRZ) - weight (compared to DRZ) - tractor engine - handling dislikes: - poor build quality - plastic fitting - air filter (dirt falls in) - WORST thing --> screw bushes in tank. That would be a reason not to buy another CCM if there would be a new enduro. Have 4 tanks and all have the problem... |
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| BenB404 | May 5 2012, 06:51 PM Post #19 |
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Viscount
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I miss my 404 :( Likes: Looks Engine Reliability Weight Cornering CCM owners ;) Dislikes: Dipstick Electrics Plastic attachment quality Stupidly Expensive parts from CCM directly |
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Current Bike; KTM 520exc 2001. Carb rejetted and EMN needle. Previous CCM; CCM 404DS Supermoto 2004. Several Carb mods, Jetting, Taffy Mod, EMM needle, Coast Enrichener removed. R30 Straight through exhaust, custom headlight. Previous Bikes; Yamaha FZR600 1991. Yamaha DT125Re 2004. ![]() Oh Yeah... I have a Capri! | |
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| stickerz | May 8 2012, 05:19 PM Post #20 |
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2 dislikes: Getting a achy bum on a long trip. Paying for fuel. Likes everything else
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